Kenwood TK-941 for Repeater Use

The TK-941 has a fixed -39MHz offset and is clumsy to say the least in a mobile application. Since the TK-941 is not of much use for mobile amateur applications, it does work very well when used in building amateur repeaters. The TK-941's make outstanding link radios, exciters, and repeater receivers with little modification. What I like most about using the TK-941 is that they are front panel tunable; meaning you do not need a computer to adjust the max deviation, tone deviation, frequency, etc. to use this feature you must enable it in the software- this is really handy if you need to change or adjust a value and you're high on a mountaintop!

The TK-941 as a Repeater Receiver

The VCO of the TK-941 is adjustable and can be easily adjusted to work in any part of the 902-928MHz band. The RX filters will need to be changed out- this holds true for ANY 900MHz radio (Kenwood, Motorola, GE, or EF Johnson) if you want to receive at 902.xxxxMHz. Removing the filters is best done using hot air. Hot air has long been a standard for work with SMD applications and it works really well for removal of the filters in the TK-941 and TK-981.

To Program the TK-941 as a repeater receiver using KPG-25D:

  1. Run the DOS based Program KPG-25D
  2. Choose TK-941 from the "Model" Menu
  3. Program the desired 902.xxxxMHz frequency by selecting the corresponding FCC ID found in KwID.exe or the FCC ID to frequency Chart- so for example 927.5000MHz would be FCC ID #40 and after KW900EZP.exe is run will be 902.5000MHz.
  4. Be sure to leave "TXinh" and "TlkArnd" in the program set to "NO"- this is because of how KW900EZP.exe works, anything with Talk Around and Transmit Inhibit" Disabled will be a 902.xxxxMHz frequency.
  5. Save the file and run KW900EZP.exe and then reopen the saved file in KPG-25D.
  6. Make sure that you set "TXinh", Transmit Inhibit to "YES" then resave the file and double check using a Kenwood Microphone that PTT is inhibited.
  7. Using a service monitor or signal generator inject a signal at your 902.xxxxMHz frequency and adjust TC51 until the receiver opens up- ensure that you have 1.0Vdc or greater at test point "CV" with your RX frequency of 902.xxxxMHz. Test point "CV" is a test pad located near the RX filters.


Below is the step by step process for programming a 902.xxxxMHz frequency for your repeater receiver using the Hex edit method:

  1. Run the DOS based program KPG-25D.
  2. Choose TK-941 from the "Model" menu
  3. Program an FCC ID of 40 (935.5000MHz) in the FCC ID section in SYSTEM 1 GROUP 1 then add the QT/DQT (PL/DPL) frequency, be sure to ENABLE TRANSMIT INHIBIT! Save the file in the default directory and exit out of KPG-25D.
  4. To get a 902.xxxMHz receive frequency you will have to Hex edit the saved .910 file (the file saved by KPG-25D).
  5. Using the Hex editior of your choice open the saved .910 file and if you look closely at line 110 in the saved .910 file at the 8th and 9th column over, this is the receive frequency. If you programmed the radio with FCC ID 40 then this Hex should be "68" and next to it "9A". Change this Hex to your desired value using the chart below.
Frequency Hex  Frequency Hex 
902.0125 F1 8F 902.2625 05 90
902.0250 F2 8F 902.2750 06 90
902.0375 F3 8F 902.2875 07 90
902.0500 F4 8F 902.3000 08 90
902.0625 F5 8F 902.3125 09 90
902.0750 F6 8F 902.3250 0A 90
902.0875 F7 8F 902.3375 0B 90
902.1000 F8 8F 902.3500 0C 90
902.1125 F9 8F 902.3625 0D 90
902.1250 FA 8F 902.3750 0E 90
902.1375 FB 8F 902.3875 0F 90
902.1500 FC 8F 902.4000 10 90
902.1625 FD 8F 902.4125 11 90
902.1750 FE 8F 902.4250 12 90
902.1875 FF 8F 902.4375 13 90
902.2000 00 90 902.4500 14 90
902.2125 01 90  902.4625 15 90
902.2250 02 90 902.4750 16 90
902.2375 03 90 902.4875 17 90
902.2500 04 90 902.5000 18 90

Frequency Hex  Frequency Hex 
902.5125 19 90 902.7625 2D 90
902.5250 1A 90 902.7750 2E 90
902.5375 1B 90 902.7875 2F 90
902.5500 1C 90 902.8000 30 90
902.5625 1D 90 902.8125 31 90
902.5750 1E 90 902.8250 32 90
902.5875 1F 90 902.8375 33 90
902.6000 20 90 902.8500 34 90
902.6125 21 90 902.8625 35 90
902.6250 22 90 902.8750 36 90
902.6375 23 90 902.8875 37 90
902.6500 24 90 902.9000 38 90
902.6625 25 90 902.9125 39 90
902.6750 26 90 902.9250 3A 90
902.6875 27 90 902.9375 3B 90
902.7000 28 90 902.9500 3C 90
902.7125 29 90 902.9625 3D 90
902.7250 2A 90 902.9750 3E 90
902.7375 2B 90 902.9875 3F 90
902.7500 2C 90

 

The pick off points for COR and low level, filtered audio.

941generalpick

 

De-emphasized receiver audio and COR can be found at the locations pictured below.

941pickpoints

 

Pre-emphasized, detector audio is available via pin 4 of the 15-pin KCT-19 Molex connector when used and is a painless quick easy way of connecting your repeater controller to pre-emphasized, detector audio out. Detector audio is also marked on the main board as "DEO" (as pictured below) which is common with pin 1 of CN1 (8-pin SMD connector on the top side of the main board that the KCT-19 plugs into)- either of these points could be used if you prefer to wire directly to "DEO" and not use the KCT-19 external accessory connector. If you would prefer to build your own KCT-19 cables see the TK-941 "Tips and Modifications" section for all needed part numbers.

941detAudio

 

The TK-941 as a Repeater Exciter

The TK-941 makes an ideal exciter for repeater use since they don't make very good amateur mobile radios due to the fixed offset. To program the radio for a 927.xxxxMHz Repeater Output frequency you can program it using KPG-25D and KW900EZP.exe or you can Hex edit the frequency.

To Program a TK-941 for a 927.xxxxMHz transmit frequency:

  1. Run the DOS based Program KPG-25D
  2. Choose TK-941 from the "Model" Menu
  3. Program the desired 927.xxxxMHz frequency by selecting the corresponding FCC ID found in KwID.exe or the FCC ID to frequency Chart- so for example 927.5000MHz would be FCC ID #40.
  4. Set the desired Time Out Timer time to 10 minutes and set all other settings as desired.
  5. Be sure to set "TlkArnd" in the program to "YES"- this is because of how KW900EZP.exe works, anything with Talk Around enabled will be a 927.xxxxMHz frequency.
  6. Save the file and run KW900EZP.exe and then reopen your saved file in KPG-25D, ensure that the desired transmit frequency is showing, adjust all settings in Test Mode such as max deviation, tone deviation, power out, etc...

 

The TK-941 can be configured to run as a very low power (250 to 400mW Output) exciter or as 4-8 Watt exciter depending on what amplifer is being used. To get 250mW output you must remove the MHW820-3 PA module (often called the "Blue Brick") and solder a small length of RG-316 coax to pin 11 of the pre-drive module M57781, connect the RG-316 coax shield to the trace going to pin 10 of the predrive module which is ground. Pictured below is a TK-941 set up for 250mW output. A small pigtail is fed out the back of the radio using a small length of RG-316 with chassis mount N-connector.

TK-941 Exciter

To get 400mW output from the predrive module, M57781, you connect your coax the same way as mentioned above but cut the trace before the resistor network going to pin 1 (the input pin) to the PA Module (MHW-820-3). This network of resistors are a attenuator PI network and they drop the power output of the predrive module before it gets to the PA module, MHW820-3.

TK-941 250mW

 

TK-941 Time Out Timer (TOT) Disable Circuit

The TK-941 has a built in Time Out Timer (TOT) that can be programmed in 15 second increments from 15 to 600 seconds to turn off the radios transmitter if the programmed transmit time is exceeded. The TOT is a desired function when the radio is used in a mobile or fixed station environment. However, the TOT feature is not desirable when using the radio as a repeater exciter with an external repeater controller managing the transmitter time out function. The one problem of the TK-941 TOT function is that it cannot be disabled in the programming software; KPG-25D.

Greg, WB6ZSU came up with a TOT disable circuit for the TK-931 some years back. Greg's TOT disable circuit was simple and worked well, as the TOT disable circuit that Greg came up with does not actually disable the TOT on the TK-931, it just resets the TOT timer very, very quickly by disabling the transmitter for a few mS. After using this timer on my first repeater consisting of TK-931's I know it worked flawlessly and it was very hard to notice the transmitter drop out due to how quickly it happened when listening to the repeater. It occurred to me one day that the TK-931 TOT disable circuit must be able to be retrofitted on the TK-941.

In a recent correspondence via email with John, W3RC, he mentioned that he had used a version of Greg's TK-931 TOT on his TK-941 based repeater- we later exchanged a couple notes and out came this circuit, a modified version of WB6ZSU's original TK-931 TOT disable circuit.

There are 3 connections to make when installing this TOT disable circuit in the TK-941. The board is inserted in-line with the controller PTT line to the radio. If you are using a KCT-19 cable on your TK-941 for interfacing to a repeater controller you will need to cut the purple wire approximately 1" away from where it is connected to CN1 Pin 7; External PTT. This 1" length of purple wire will connect to the 1/8 Watt 1K Ohm resistor, the other end of the purple wire that goes out to the 15 pin Molex will connect to the collector of the 2N2907A (2N2907A Datasheet). The last connection is the trigger wire, that wire will connect to the inboard side (the side towards the middle of the board) of R18, a 4.7k Ohm SMD resistor on the front LCD panel, please see the picture below.

 

 

 

TK-941 Repeaters in Service

KD6VPH Baw Faw, WA Repeater, 927.9250MHz QT 114.8Hz
2 TK-941L Link Radios, 350mW Exciter, Milcom 150W 900MHz Amplifier running 90W output,
Wacom WP-688 Duplexer

 

 

 

KD6VPH South Mt., WA Repeater, 927.2500MHz QT 114.8Hz
TK-941L Link Radio, 350mW Exciter, Milcom 150W 800MHz converted to 900MHz Amplifier running 90W output,
Wacom WP-688 Duplexer

 

 

 

KD6VPH Maxwell Hill, WA Repeater, 927.1375MHz QT 131.8Hz
TK-941L Link Radio, 350mW Exciter, Milcom 80W 800MHz converted to 900MHz Amplifier running 80W output, Wacom WP-688 Duplexer

 

 

 

KD6VPH Bush Mt., WA Repeater, 927.7500MHz QT 114.8Hz
350mW Exciter, Milcom 50W 800MHz converted to 900MHz Amplifier running 45W output, Wacom WP-688 Duplexer